Steve Schlissel: "God lies"
Steve Schlissel: "God lies"
Speaking earlier this month
at the 2005 Christian Worldview Student Conference sponsored by the Calvary
Reformed Presbyterian Church (PCA) in Hampton, Virginia, pastored by Pete Hurst
and Byron Snapp, Steve Schlissel, who has been preaching lies for
years, emphatically claimed that his God lies, too. His exact words
"God freely chose to lie to
Ahab [in 1 Kings 22] by an appointed surrogate. He did not wince, did not
squeal, did not seek to shift responsibility. In fact, he boasted about it to
Ahab and Ahab's colleagues.... Someone says, 'God lies.' Yes, He does."
Of the many PCA Elders who
were present at this conference of several hundred students, apparently only
one, Calvin Beisner of Knox Seminary, objected to Schlissel's lies.
Schlissel said that God
lies, and God is responsible for his lies: "Consider the facts. God solicited
the plan [to deceive Ahab], God had his choice of plans, God approved THIS
specific plan, and authorized it, and commissioned the lying spirit.
According to the Word of God, presiding judges are responsible for their
decisions and commanding generals are directly responsible for their
Not only does Schlissel
directly contradict the explicit statements of Scripture when he says that God
lies (see Titus 1:2: "God...cannot lie"; Hebrews 6:18: "impossible for God to
lie"; 1 John 2:21: "no lie is of the truth"; Number 23:19: "God is not a
man that he should lie"), Schlissel also regards God as a man and thus compares
him to a presiding judge or a commanding general. Schlissel has no grasp of the
distinction between the Creator and the creature, and he makes God subject to
the same rules that apply to mere men, who are held accountable by God.
God is not responsible to
anyone, especially not to Steve Schlissel. The concept of responsibility, as Dr.
Gordon Clark pointed out 70 years ago to those who have ears to hear, implies
that one is legitimately required to give a response, to give an account, to a
superior. God has no superior, especially not Steve Schlissel. No one can
require God to give an account of his actions. God, therefore is not responsible
to anyone for anything. When Schlissel says that God lies, Schlissel lies. When
Schlissel says that God is responsible for his lies, Schlissel lies.
Furthermore, Schlissel says
that some lies are good. He seems to have learned this lie from the
Reconstructionists (or perhaps it was the situation ethicist Joseph Fletcher),
who have taught the virtue of lying for decades. So when God lies, he is
doing good. And presumably Schlissel thinks that when he lies, he is also doing
good. He is deceived and a deceiver.
Question: What heresies,
what blasphemies, what lies have to be told in PCA churches before the members
rise up and throw out the liars? The Elders of Calvary Reformed
Presbyterian Church, who invited Schlissel to speak to the students, stand by
his remarks. They have issued no statement contradicting him, and do not intend
to do so. What heresies, what blasphemies, what lies do PCA pastors and Elders
have to endorse before Presbyteries remove them from office?
Calvary Reformed Presbyterian Church is a member
of the James River Presbytery in the PCA. Will the Presbytery take any action
against Schlissel and the Session of Calvary? Don't hold your breath.
The Trinity Foundation
July 29, 2005